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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.01 16:20:48 -
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There's been some absolutely horrible posts so far, mainly due to ignorance (people clearly not reading for devblog) or just some extremely convulated explanations of how this will kill eve (one particular favourite was how it was going to harm the skill injector market).
Overall I think only three valid concerns have been raised throughout this almost 50 page shitfest ( honestly I thought the eve forum community was smarter than what has been demonstrated here):
1. Simultaneous account logging.
2. Safety settings.
3. Chat limitations.
I'm not going to debunk or explain to any of you that might think you have other valid concerns (spoiler: you don't) as it's already been done multiple times.
This is not 'F2P', this is an update to the current trial system to encourage more subscriptions and also retain current subscriptions.
Most people who actually play this game and make active contributions to it should have a problem with more players entering the arena.
And to all the people crying about how f2p "killed" other games, you couldn't be further from the truth. F2p is likely what kept some games profitable after various factors caused them to be unsustainable if still on a subscription model. |
Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:00:08 -
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You know it's a journalists job to sensationalise article headlines so that people will actually read them right?
What you classify as a 'super ****' version of f2p, I define it as something different and honestly given the initial parameters they've set here, it's literally got 0 parallels with any of the other f2p models out there.
Most of them offer unrestricted gameplay with micro transactions to enhance your experience, whether that be in the form of mundane things such as inventory space or cosmetic like skins and pets. You never really need to pay anything but sure it will be easier if you paid some cash.
This proposition from CCP however is very tranparent that YOU WILL BE LIMITED, you just don't have a time limit on how long you're limited for and you can continue having your character forever if you decide to sub or not. |
Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:10:32 -
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I agree there, concept is good, way it's been marketed is incredibly bad.
they need to damage control before it gets labelled as a scam
And 100% agree with the above. Gaming journalism is ******* terrible these days, most articles come from people who have never even played the game they are writing about and it's usually click bait with really bad research and no substance. |
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Posted - 2016.09.01 17:19:48 -
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Martin Corwin wrote:So trials are just getting an upgrade from 21 days to unlimited time. Meh. Wake me up when there's real news. 
Pretty much what is happening yes |
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Posted - 2016.09.08 01:57:46 -
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If something has been removed by a moderator I've always seen a post by them talking about why. |
Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.11 17:33:12 -
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Could do what some other games have done and do tiers of paid structures.
Beta could be a one time payment of 10 euros to access a second race and extend sp cap to 10mil with certain skills
Delta could be a reduced subscription cost and allow almost full functionality with limits like what size or complexity ship you can fly for ex nothing bigger than a bc and t1 only for 5 euros a month
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Posted - 2016.09.12 05:21:31 -
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What kind of inflation are you worried about?
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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.12 07:01:44 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Cygnus Utini wrote:How does CCP plan on curtailing the inflation that will accompany the addition of so many alpha clones. Inflation is primarily driven by isk faucets. The largest of which is carrier ratting (as shown by the dramatic increase in bounties after the citadel expansion). Alpha clones will not be impacting significantly on the supply of isk due to their ship limits.
This would have been my answer if the question was directed at market prices
With such skill restrictions we might even see some things go up in price such as t1 hulls
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Tsukino Stareine
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Posted - 2016.09.12 07:18:38 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Cygnus Utini wrote:How does CCP plan on curtailing the inflation that will accompany the addition of so many alpha clones. Inflation is primarily driven by isk faucets. The largest of which is carrier ratting (as shown by the dramatic increase in bounties after the citadel expansion). Alpha clones will not be impacting significantly on the supply of isk due to their ship limits. This would have been my answer if the question was directed at market prices With such skill restrictions we might even see some things go up in price such as t1 hulls That is not inflation though. This notion of demand-pull inflation is not really inflation. Inflation has to do with the money supply not things like changes in demand or supply.
Oh I meant that the alphas could only cause inflation if given the tools to, which they won't.
T1 hulls going up would be independent of the rest of the market and indeed would not be inflation but rather the demand going up
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Posted - 2016.09.12 16:26:42 -
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DeODokktor wrote:What about "Cerebral Accelerators" http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cerebral_accelerator
This patch will, in essence, kill them. Before they had a real value due to time savings against PLEX. Now with you being able to grind your first 4-5 months free then they will hold little to now real "value". And has been asked and asked. What about new player invites. Does clone states mean that there will no longer be a trial account, or will the trial account now be like a "plex" account during the trial? If you have +5 implants, what will happen when the clone state changes. Would it be possible to keep the "hours for plex" option in the accounts page.. This would be good for those players who say they need to log in to re-up their account, but do it without worrying about their ship status.. The penalty in place for this should mean that it would work for those players who want to log in but may need to cloak or whatever.
You actually need to read the blog. Most of your questions have been answered already.
As for accelerators they will still be useful for omegas and if my hunch is correct, only people who used them anyway were vets making alts or someone who bought a package off steam that gave you subbed time anyway
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